Comments on: Drink! Feck! Girls! RSS! http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/ Open government and everything else Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:13:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dave http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-9974 Dave Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:31:58 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17701#comment-9974 To be honest though Tim, did anyone outside geek circles really know what to do with that orange button anyway? As for Feedburner, that of course does turn RSS from a standard to a service. If Google stopped supporting it, quite a few bloggers, including me, would be in bother. I seriously regret ever starting to use it, to be honest, though the stats are nice (when I bother to check them). To be honest though Tim, did anyone outside geek circles really know what to do with that orange button anyway?

As for Feedburner, that of course does turn RSS from a standard to a service. If Google stopped supporting it, quite a few bloggers, including me, would be in bother. I seriously regret ever starting to use it, to be honest, though the stats are nice (when I bother to check them).

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By: Tim Davies http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-9973 Tim Davies Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:27:02 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17701#comment-9973 N.B. This is only in reference to 'consumer' RSS use. Adrian's points on the far wider utility of RSS noted. N.B. This is only in reference to ‘consumer’ RSS use. Adrian’s points on the far wider utility of RSS noted.

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By: Tim Davies http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-9972 Tim Davies Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:26:18 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17701#comment-9972 The standard might not die, but with changing browser support, it's usability can get pretty dead as browsers change the way they handle it... In Firefox, when I view an RSS feed, it tries to display it in a relatively friendly way - and gives me a link to subscribe with a range of RSS subscription tools. In Chrome, I get a lot of code and no idea of how to 'action' this feed or subscribe to it. For the end user that's a big difference... Of course, the publisher or RSS does have an option to bring their feeds back to life. If the feed happened to be running through Feedburner - then, hey-presto - even if my browser doesn't support it I get a friendly interstitial page that makes RSS really simple for me. Or if instead of/as well as a direct link to the feed, I can find links to an explanation of how to subscribe to the feeds, their usability is at least on life-support. Perhaps testing how users experience RSS with their current browsers - and thinking about how changing browser functionality might require a change in site design / RSS implementation to keep it flowing is what's needed? The standard might not die, but with changing browser support, it’s usability can get pretty dead as browsers change the way they handle it…

In Firefox, when I view an RSS feed, it tries to display it in a relatively friendly way – and gives me a link to subscribe with a range of RSS subscription tools. In Chrome, I get a lot of code and no idea of how to ‘action’ this feed or subscribe to it. For the end user that’s a big difference…

Of course, the publisher or RSS does have an option to bring their feeds back to life. If the feed happened to be running through Feedburner – then, hey-presto – even if my browser doesn’t support it I get a friendly interstitial page that makes RSS really simple for me. Or if instead of/as well as a direct link to the feed, I can find links to an explanation of how to subscribe to the feeds, their usability is at least on life-support.

Perhaps testing how users experience RSS with their current browsers – and thinking about how changing browser functionality might require a change in site design / RSS implementation to keep it flowing is what’s needed?

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By: Dave http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-9959 Dave Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:25:41 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17701#comment-9959 Spot on, Adrian! Plumbing is just the right metaphor, mouths and pipes just as accurate if somewhat unpleasant. Hopefully this kerfuffle is sufficiently localised in nerd circles to not reach those in local gov who need to make sure their sites have RSS feeds, as per your campaign! Spot on, Adrian! Plumbing is just the right metaphor, mouths and pipes just as accurate if somewhat unpleasant. Hopefully this kerfuffle is sufficiently localised in nerd circles to not reach those in local gov who need to make sure their sites have RSS feeds, as per your campaign!

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By: Adrian Short http://davepress.net/2011/01/04/feck-girls-rss/comment-page-1/#comment-9958 Adrian Short Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:56:15 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17701#comment-9958 This old chestnut again! RSS is an easy and standardised way of moving data between applications. Some of those applications are feed reader apps used by end users, like Google Reader. But many of them are not. RSS is plumbing. If you don't want to attach your mouth to the end of a pipe, fine. There are plenty of other uses, like the criminally-underused RSS to email and my very own <a href="http://mashthestate.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/guerilla-noticeboarding-the-council-with-barcode-posters/" rel="nofollow">Barcode Posters</a>. This old chestnut again!

RSS is an easy and standardised way of moving data between applications. Some of those applications are feed reader apps used by end users, like Google Reader. But many of them are not. RSS is plumbing. If you don’t want to attach your mouth to the end of a pipe, fine. There are plenty of other uses, like the criminally-underused RSS to email and my very own Barcode Posters.

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