Comments on: The pipe problem http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/ Open government and everything else Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: cyberdoyle http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8037 cyberdoyle Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:34:36 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8037 well said Cassie. Also another point to be made is if the workforce want to access social media they will probably be doing it on smartphones anyway? well said Cassie.
Also another point to be made is if the workforce want to access social media they will probably be doing it on smartphones anyway?

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By: Cassie http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8036 Cassie Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:25:43 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8036 I've worked in a few public sector organisations, and my work has involved introducing social media-based programs. My current employer, who is awesome, doesn't block anything, all others have blocked at least some sites. In my experience, IT departments are hostile to social media because they don't want the capacity increase. It's got nothing to do with time-wasting really, but it gets justified as such, and you can end up with a whole layer of middle management completely convinced that everyone will down tools the instant they can access FB from their workstation. Also in my experience, the capacity `problem' is what the organisation wants to pay for, not what is actually available. This does baffle me a little, because capacity is relatively cheap compared with other large organisation infrastructure expenses. As high-bandwidth activity becomes more common, it also gets harder to restrict it solely by blocking FB; YouTube and Gmail. (I wonder how many departments networks fell over during the PM's swearing in, from ppl watching the ABC). It is really important that professionals working in social media areas - who need staff to have more access to social media - understand that it is often the pipe that is the real issue. Find out what capacity your organisation has, how much it increases by per year, and whether that is restricted by the network technology (which can be upgraded!) or simply by what amount is paid for each year. If you can secure funding for extra capacity connected to your project, you might be surprised by how quickly other opposition melts away... I’ve worked in a few public sector organisations, and my work has involved introducing social media-based programs. My current employer, who is awesome, doesn’t block anything, all others have blocked at least some sites.

In my experience, IT departments are hostile to social media because they don’t want the capacity increase. It’s got nothing to do with time-wasting really, but it gets justified as such, and you can end up with a whole layer of middle management completely convinced that everyone will down tools the instant they can access FB from their workstation.
Also in my experience, the capacity `problem’ is what the organisation wants to pay for, not what is actually available. This does baffle me a little, because capacity is relatively cheap compared with other large organisation infrastructure expenses.

As high-bandwidth activity becomes more common, it also gets harder to restrict it solely by blocking FB; YouTube and Gmail. (I wonder how many departments networks fell over during the PM’s swearing in, from ppl watching the ABC).

It is really important that professionals working in social media areas – who need staff to have more access to social media – understand that it is often the pipe that is the real issue. Find out what capacity your organisation has, how much it increases by per year, and whether that is restricted by the network technology (which can be upgraded!) or simply by what amount is paid for each year. If you can secure funding for extra capacity connected to your project, you might be surprised by how quickly other opposition melts away…

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By: Martin http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8033 Martin Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:30:35 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8033 I think underlying all of these is something more intangible - the rationalisation may be 'security' but what is at the heart I feel is control. This may be a real anxiety - we can get sued & if we can't prove we were in control of every aspect we'll be liable. It is also just habit of IT staff - if in doubt say no, and make sure you retain control. There are also elements of professional identity wrapped up in this - if people are using all this external free services, what do we do? I think underlying all of these is something more intangible – the rationalisation may be ‘security’ but what is at the heart I feel is control. This may be a real anxiety – we can get sued & if we can’t prove we were in control of every aspect we’ll be liable. It is also just habit of IT staff – if in doubt say no, and make sure you retain control. There are also elements of professional identity wrapped up in this – if people are using all this external free services, what do we do?

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By: Dave Nicholls http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8030 Dave Nicholls Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:13:52 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8030 You won't get any argument from me on point 3, but I have a few issues with the other two points. With regard to wasting time. It is true that people who want to waste time will find ways to do it, but that isn't a reason to make it easy for them to do so. You can set up policies, but they need to be policed; blocking sites reduces the effort necessary to do this. Creating business inefficiency by blocking sites that are useful to staff is stupid though. I've seen this a number of times. For information security you seem to only talk about situations where the release is accidental. What about the very real possibility of deliberate dissemination? Slideshare would work very well as a way of passing credit card or other personal data. I agree that the same could be done with paper but paper is often a requirement to work, access to general internet sites isn't. I work in the call centre industry and some organisations go to great lengths to control the confidential data that they hold. I know of sites where paper is also banned. This often isn't practical and in these cases numbered and watermarked sheets are often used. A staff member has to hand in their existing sheets for destruction before they can be issued with new ones. It often feels like overkill, but high profile data losses have made companies step up their procedures in an effort to prevent issues or, at the very least, to cover their backs when something goes wrong You won’t get any argument from me on point 3, but I have a few issues with the other two points.

With regard to wasting time. It is true that people who want to waste time will find ways to do it, but that isn’t a reason to make it easy for them to do so. You can set up policies, but they need to be policed; blocking sites reduces the effort necessary to do this. Creating business inefficiency by blocking sites that are useful to staff is stupid though. I’ve seen this a number of times.

For information security you seem to only talk about situations where the release is accidental. What about the very real possibility of deliberate dissemination? Slideshare would work very well as a way of passing credit card or other personal data. I agree that the same could be done with paper but paper is often a requirement to work, access to general internet sites isn’t.

I work in the call centre industry and some organisations go to great lengths to control the confidential data that they hold. I know of sites where paper is also banned. This often isn’t practical and in these cases numbered and watermarked sheets are often used. A staff member has to hand in their existing sheets for destruction before they can be issued with new ones. It often feels like overkill, but high profile data losses have made companies step up their procedures in an effort to prevent issues or, at the very least, to cover their backs when something goes wrong

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By: carl haggerty http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8015 carl haggerty Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:33:52 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8015 Good post From an organisational point of view the pipe is an issue but again isn't insurmountable. You can apply what is called Quality of Service across a network to ensure that essential traffic and data always have enough capacity to get through. We simply need to classify this new data in a similar way against our current data. The challenge is actually implementing this but that is just as much of a challenge as the other two which might not be technical and more cultural. Outside of course, we need better connectivity - say no more. Good post
From an organisational point of view the pipe is an issue but again isn’t insurmountable. You can apply what is called Quality of Service across a network to ensure that essential traffic and data always have enough capacity to get through. We simply need to classify this new data in a similar way against our current data. The challenge is actually implementing this but that is just as much of a challenge as the other two which might not be technical and more cultural.

Outside of course, we need better connectivity – say no more.

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By: cyberdoyle http://davepress.net/2010/10/11/the-pipe-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-8014 cyberdoyle Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:48:10 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=17380#comment-8014 the main problem is the fact that we are trying to lead the world in a digital age but we only have access to the internet through an aging copper phone network. Until we have fibre to each and every government office, home and business we are going nowhere. Why won't policy makers see this? People need fat pipes, not a drip from a tap that suffers from drought at peak times. Other countries are laying fibre by the mile - they don't have our legacy infrastructure. We are getting left behind. chris the main problem is the fact that we are trying to lead the world in a digital age but we only have access to the internet through an aging copper phone network. Until we have fibre to each and every government office, home and business we are going nowhere. Why won’t policy makers see this? People need fat pipes, not a drip from a tap that suffers from drought at peak times. Other countries are laying fibre by the mile – they don’t have our legacy infrastructure. We are getting left behind.
chris

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