Comments on: This is how it can be done http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/ Using the internet to make government more interesting Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:06:57 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Harry Harrold http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2679 Harry Harrold Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:38:54 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2679 @Andrew - but the beauty of this approach - small experiment, low investment - means if it doesn't work you haven't lost much. You'll learn and iterate - and we'll learn from you. Congratulations. I'll be looking forward to seeing... How easy it is to keep up with the conversations on that site - rss of comments? Wordle of all comment text? What sort of people take part - digital divide and technocracy issues? How do the consulators show they're listening - just add a comment? @Andrew – but the beauty of this approach – small experiment, low investment – means if it doesn’t work you haven’t lost much. You’ll learn and iterate – and we’ll learn from you.

Congratulations.

I’ll be looking forward to seeing… How easy it is to keep up with the conversations on that site – rss of comments? Wordle of all comment text? What sort of people take part – digital divide and technocracy issues? How do the consulators show they’re listening – just add a comment?

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By: Andrew Beeken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2677 Andrew Beeken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:48:49 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2677 @Shane "Disaster is not an option!" I think I'll take that to use for the future! :D Seriously, though, probably disaster was a strong word. Failure or disappointment; those are better suited. @Shane

“Disaster is not an option!” I think I’ll take that to use for the future! :D

Seriously, though, probably disaster was a strong word. Failure or disappointment; those are better suited.

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By: Shane McCracken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2676 Shane McCracken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:53:33 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2676 @Andrew It won't be a disaster. That's the beauty of doing what you have done. You've nothing to lose. Disaster isn't an option. @Andrew

It won’t be a disaster. That’s the beauty of doing what you have done. You’ve nothing to lose. Disaster isn’t an option.

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By: Andrew Beeken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2675 Andrew Beeken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:46:01 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2675 @Shane Thanks for the concern; this isn't solely my project, however. It's being driven by Policy who will ultimately take the reins and they are planning to do a number of workshops both internally and externally to promote the use of the site as a discussion area. Communications will also be backing promotion through the local media. I'll certainly be keeping all up to date via Twitter and my blog, so I'm hoping it's not a tremendous disaster! @Shane

Thanks for the concern; this isn’t solely my project, however. It’s being driven by Policy who will ultimately take the reins and they are planning to do a number of workshops both internally and externally to promote the use of the site as a discussion area. Communications will also be backing promotion through the local media.

I’ll certainly be keeping all up to date via Twitter and my blog, so I’m hoping it’s not a tremendous disaster!

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By: Shane McCracken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2673 Shane McCracken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:04 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2673 @Andrew I appreciate that and Dave is right about taking small steps. I'm just cautious because those of us who are heavy users of social media can get carried away with the technology and forget to look over our shoulders to make sure the rest of the world are with us. One of the things that Steve Clift from Edemocracy.org recommends is that you don't launch a discussion site until you've done the offline recruitment first. If you want to generate conversations you don't want an empty space. You need a critical mass of participants. I don't want to put people off experimenting. It's vital. But so are the more boring parts such as offline recruitment. @Andrew

I appreciate that and Dave is right about taking small steps. I’m just cautious because those of us who are heavy users of social media can get carried away with the technology and forget to look over our shoulders to make sure the rest of the world are with us.

One of the things that Steve Clift from Edemocracy.org recommends is that you don’t launch a discussion site until you’ve done the offline recruitment first. If you want to generate conversations you don’t want an empty space. You need a critical mass of participants.

I don’t want to put people off experimenting. It’s vital. But so are the more boring parts such as offline recruitment.

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By: Community Voice « StudioAB http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2672 Community Voice « StudioAB Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:17:39 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2672 [...] Tweeted to see what my Twitter cohorts thought and was met with some pretty positive feedback! Thanks to Dave Briggs for this blog entry, posted minutes after my Tweet. There were a few questions floating around the Twitterverse that [...] [...] Tweeted to see what my Twitter cohorts thought and was met with some pretty positive feedback! Thanks to Dave Briggs for this blog entry, posted minutes after my Tweet. There were a few questions floating around the Twitterverse that [...]

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By: Andrew Beeken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2671 Andrew Beeken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:55:52 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2671 I think the first thing for us is giving people a platform that they can use for communication to both ourselves and between themselves (too many selves!), to see what kind of takeup we get. It's early days yet but we'll be promoting this and I hope to see some conversations running on it soon. Dave, I'm writing up a blog post regarding this divulging some of the thoughts behind the project; do you have a problem if I pop a link in the comments of this post once it's done? I think the first thing for us is giving people a platform that they can use for communication to both ourselves and between themselves (too many selves!), to see what kind of takeup we get. It’s early days yet but we’ll be promoting this and I hope to see some conversations running on it soon.

Dave, I’m writing up a blog post regarding this divulging some of the thoughts behind the project; do you have a problem if I pop a link in the comments of this post once it’s done?

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By: Dave http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2670 Dave Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:31:36 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2670 Small steps, Shane, small steps... Small steps, Shane, small steps…

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By: Shane McCracken http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2669 Shane McCracken Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:30:04 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2669 I'm really glad to see Andrew and the City of Lincoln using Wordpress to run the site and it is a great step forward. BUT that's just the technology. The bigger step will be make the consultations engaging and deliberative, to make them interesting, to let people know what effect filling in a questionnaire will have... I’m really glad to see Andrew and the City of Lincoln using Wordpress to run the site and it is a great step forward.

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that’s just the technology. The bigger step will be make the consultations engaging and deliberative, to make them interesting, to let people know what effect filling in a questionnaire will have…

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By: Stuart Harrison http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/this-is-how-it-can-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-2666 Stuart Harrison Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:06:46 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1295#comment-2666 I've been sweating over putting together a bespoke consultation system over the last few weeks, and this just goes to show that simple can sometimes be better! I'm spitting feathers! Great stuff I’ve been sweating over putting together a bespoke consultation system over the last few weeks, and this just goes to show that simple can sometimes be better! I’m spitting feathers! Great stuff

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