Comments on: Can someone explain to me what an eMagazine is, please http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/ Using the internet to make government more interesting Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:22:05 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Remind us of your views, again? | DavePress http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2773 Remind us of your views, again? | DavePress Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:30:23 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2773 [...] wrote a little while back about a fairly terrible website being used by Cambridgeshire’s Transport Commission to [...] [...] wrote a little while back about a fairly terrible website being used by Cambridgeshire’s Transport Commission to [...]

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By: paul canning http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2668 paul canning Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:35:21 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2668 To answer this question, Tim's actually right. The idea of "professional looking" being pretty central. But also to answer your question, the history of 'e-magazine' is in early attempts to monetise the web by Vanity Fair etc. way back magazines produced versions which literally attempted to replicate themselves online, same look'n'feel. A fetishisation of magazine design which came out of the 90s revolution in magazine design. This local thing is as Tim says aimed at a - let's be kind' - rather limited understanding of what the web is by fund sources. I guess this speaks to the need for 'us' to find simpler models to explain to such people what the web is if such companies can get away with 'e-magazine' ... To answer this question, Tim’s actually right. The idea of “professional looking” being pretty central.

But also to answer your question, the history of ‘e-magazine’ is in early attempts to monetise the web by Vanity Fair etc. way back magazines produced versions which literally attempted to replicate themselves online, same look’n'feel. A fetishisation of magazine design which came out of the 90s revolution in magazine design.

This local thing is as Tim says aimed at a – let’s be kind’ – rather limited understanding of what the web is by fund sources. I guess this speaks to the need for ‘us’ to find simpler models to explain to such people what the web is if such companies can get away with ‘e-magazine’ …

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By: David Bradley http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2667 David Bradley Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:20:57 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2667 The fact that they use that awful word, stakeholder, says it all as far as I'm concerned. I'm surprised they aren't leveraging their e-magazine to deverticalize the core competencies of the multifarious stakeholders and providing a broad incentivization driven virtual economy... or some other such b'lox. The fact that they use that awful word, stakeholder, says it all as far as I’m concerned. I’m surprised they aren’t

leveraging their e-magazine to deverticalize the core competencies of the multifarious stakeholders and providing a broad incentivization driven virtual economy…

or some other such b’lox.

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By: John Self http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2662 John Self Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:27:22 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2662 Or upload photos of cars parked badly - straddling bays in the car park, too near a junction or a crossing - with the ten worst offenders each day - to be decided by me - having their vehicle crushed. Now we're talking! <em>(Sorry, just one of my many driving-related hobby horses... Next week: on-the-spot penalties for people who drive into parking spaces instead of reversing into them.)</em> Or upload photos of cars parked badly – straddling bays in the car park, too near a junction or a crossing – with the ten worst offenders each day – to be decided by me – having their vehicle crushed. Now we’re talking!

(Sorry, just one of my many driving-related hobby horses… Next week: on-the-spot penalties for people who drive into parking spaces instead of reversing into them.)

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By: PaulG http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2661 PaulG Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:46:31 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2661 In this case it seems to mean: whereby a council or members of a committee can pretend to "engage with the public" without taking any responsibility for securing or managing the personal data users submit. (viz: the irresponsible lack of use of https:// to encrypt the personal information demanded on the form) Futhermore, the usual .gov.uk domain specific usability and accessibility rules do not apply, so they wash their hands any problems. Anywhere near? In this case it seems to mean: whereby a council or members of a committee can pretend to “engage with the public” without taking any responsibility for securing or managing the personal data users submit.

(viz: the irresponsible lack of use of https:// to encrypt the personal information demanded on the form)

Futhermore, the usual .gov.uk domain specific usability and accessibility rules do not apply, so they wash their hands any problems.

Anywhere near?

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By: Dave http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2659 Dave Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:53 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2659 Oh, absolutely. Yous still need to have the text, and any video shouldn't be any longer than 3 minutes at the very most. But it would just break up the tedium of reading through all that stuff to have something a bit different to look at. It also might be said, John, that given your profession and prodigious reading habits, you are more comfortable with with text than most people? ;-) Another simple way of adding some quick - perhaps superficial - involvement from the public would be to publish photos that people could upload of traffic problems that they spot - 'Snap a jam' or something. Fine, it wouldn't actually add a huge amount to the debate, but it might be a useful way of bringing attention to the consultation. Oh, absolutely. Yous still need to have the text, and any video shouldn’t be any longer than 3 minutes at the very most. But it would just break up the tedium of reading through all that stuff to have something a bit different to look at.

It also might be said, John, that given your profession and prodigious reading habits, you are more comfortable with with text than most people? ;-)

Another simple way of adding some quick – perhaps superficial – involvement from the public would be to publish photos that people could upload of traffic problems that they spot – ‘Snap a jam’ or something. Fine, it wouldn’t actually add a huge amount to the debate, but it might be a useful way of bringing attention to the consultation.

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By: John Self http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2658 John Self Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:11:25 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2658 <blockquote>There’s a lot of text on the site, which could so easily be augmented with some short video clips explaining what the whole thing is about</blockquote> Yes, <em>but</em>... I can't be the only one who <em>hates</em> most video content on websites. The thing about it is that you have to sit through however long it is to find out what it's telling you, whereas with text it can be scanned through as quickly as you like. I'd go so far as to say that video should never be used without available text at least to summarise what it's about - particularly on the likes of the BBC news site. Web developers may like putting video in as part of their attempt to "be less boring," but it should only ever be a supplement to rather than a replacement for instantaneously available content.

There’s a lot of text on the site, which could so easily be augmented with some short video clips explaining what the whole thing is about

Yes, but… I can’t be the only one who hates most video content on websites. The thing about it is that you have to sit through however long it is to find out what it’s telling you, whereas with text it can be scanned through as quickly as you like. I’d go so far as to say that video should never be used without available text at least to summarise what it’s about – particularly on the likes of the BBC news site. Web developers may like putting video in as part of their attempt to “be less boring,” but it should only ever be a supplement to rather than a replacement for instantaneously available content.

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By: Tim Duckett http://davepress.net/2009/01/29/can-someone-explain-to-me-what-an-emagazine-is-please/comment-page-1/#comment-2657 Tim Duckett Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:16:24 +0000 http://davepress.net/?p=1285#comment-2657 There's a partial "answer" on the site of TaylorFitch, the agency that built this: "Fully interactive and professional looking, eMagazines have proven to be an exciting way to engage with staff, partners, stakeholders, members and residents. They are budget and environmentally friendly with a clever back-end system which allows you to publish new editions yourself- quickly and easily. Viewable also on PDAs and mobile phones, readers can interact via online polls, surveys and links, giving valuable feedback." Sounds like an agency has found a neat way to monetise the befuddlement of local gov comms people - sure sounds like an email to me :-) It would be very interesting to find out how much this kind of rubbish costs... There’s a partial “answer” on the site of TaylorFitch, the agency that built this:

“Fully interactive and professional looking, eMagazines have proven to be an exciting way to engage with staff, partners, stakeholders, members and residents.

They are budget and environmentally friendly with a clever back-end system which allows you to publish new editions yourself- quickly and easily.

Viewable also on PDAs and mobile phones, readers can interact via online polls, surveys and links, giving valuable feedback.”

Sounds like an agency has found a neat way to monetise the befuddlement of local gov comms people – sure sounds like an email to me :-) It would be very interesting to find out how much this kind of rubbish costs…

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