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		<title>By: Penval - News</title>
		<link>http://davepress.net/2010/01/20/govcamp-this-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-6351</link>
		<dc:creator>Penval - News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I had to miss both ukgovcamp10  and diunconf in Birmingham I found the discussions that came from both interesting and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://davepress.net/2010/01/20/govcamp-this-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-6207</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a bit of a black mood yesterday (ukgovoss was down for a second day when I wanted to write on it), but even so, suggesting that users with less than perfect AV skills are not human and not real people pretty much comes under &quot;sick and twisted&quot; in my book.  Can you switch off the eye/hearing test and screen signups?  If Ning doesn&#039;t let you do that, then ask: you&#039;re the paying customer, so they might pay attention to you, whereas their general contact form asks people to sign in, which brings us back to the eye/hearing test on the registration page.

I know we won&#039;t agree on Google, but I&#039;m amazed you&#039;re defending Ning&#039;s abusive disability discrimination.  Not making money out of a service doesn&#039;t excuse calling pople not human, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a bit of a black mood yesterday (ukgovoss was down for a second day when I wanted to write on it), but even so, suggesting that users with less than perfect AV skills are not human and not real people pretty much comes under &#8220;sick and twisted&#8221; in my book.  Can you switch off the eye/hearing test and screen signups?  If Ning doesn&#8217;t let you do that, then ask: you&#8217;re the paying customer, so they might pay attention to you, whereas their general contact form asks people to sign in, which brings us back to the eye/hearing test on the registration page.</p>
<p>I know we won&#8217;t agree on Google, but I&#8217;m amazed you&#8217;re defending Ning&#8217;s abusive disability discrimination.  Not making money out of a service doesn&#8217;t excuse calling pople not human, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, MJ!

UKGovCamp is not subordinate to Google! Last year we were hosted by the Ministry of Justice. This year, timescales were tight and Google agreed to host. They have space, good catering and excellent wifi.

Ning sick and twisted? Even by your standards on this stuff that&#039;s a tad OTT! Ning is quick, easy and virtually free (I paid to get rid of ads and to point the domain). We&#039;ve tried other stuff that just hasn&#039;t worked, from Mediawiki, PBworks, Google Groups...

Nobody makes any money from this event. It&#039;s organised in our spare time. We do the best we can with the resources available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, MJ!</p>
<p>UKGovCamp is not subordinate to Google! Last year we were hosted by the Ministry of Justice. This year, timescales were tight and Google agreed to host. They have space, good catering and excellent wifi.</p>
<p>Ning sick and twisted? Even by your standards on this stuff that&#8217;s a tad OTT! Ning is quick, easy and virtually free (I paid to get rid of ads and to point the domain). We&#8217;ve tried other stuff that just hasn&#8217;t worked, from Mediawiki, PBworks, Google Groups&#8230;</p>
<p>Nobody makes any money from this event. It&#8217;s organised in our spare time. We do the best we can with the resources available.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://davepress.net/2010/01/20/govcamp-this-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-6205</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is an open network that anyone can join and take part in!&quot; No, as normal for Ning, people who can&#039;t pass the audio-visual test are told that they are not &quot;human&quot; and not &quot;a real person&quot;. :-(  That is sick and twisted and should be removed from any UKGov-related thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is an open network that anyone can join and take part in!&#8221; No, as normal for Ning, people who can&#8217;t pass the audio-visual test are told that they are not &#8220;human&#8221; and not &#8220;a real person&#8221;. <img src='http://davepress.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   That is sick and twisted and should be removed from any UKGov-related thing.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://davepress.net/2010/01/20/govcamp-this-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-6204</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is disappointing that UKGovCamp is subordinate to Google.  A community-run or public-sector venue would be more fitting.</description>
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		<title>By: ArunMarsh (ArunMarsh)</title>
		<link>http://davepress.net/2010/01/20/govcamp-this-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-6199</link>
		<dc:creator>ArunMarsh (ArunMarsh)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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@davebriggs I won&#039;t be making it im afraid mate&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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@davebriggs I won&#8217;t be making it im afraid mate</p>
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		<title>By: davebriggs (Dave Briggs)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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If you think you are coming to #ukgc10 please read this  [link to post]</p>
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